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i also believe that we need -- there's two major security issues going on in the pacific. this is one. the other one is china trampling on our interests, south china sea as general mattis, secretary mattis mentioned. we need a comprehensive strategy to get china to reverse the militarization that they're doing, breaking international law and also trampling on our allies and our interests. and we should not use the cooperation that we want to have with them over north korea as a reason not to do that. eric: that is -- >> we should absolutely move forward on it. eric: that is a great point. they've got those manmade islands which are being, we're told, militarized. this at the same time you've got them watching over kim jong un. 45 seconds, it would take a missile to go right over the dmz toward 8,000 of our troops. it would be the prospects would be horrific. general jack keane, always good to see you. thank you. >> good talking to you, eric. eric: arthel? arthel: an emotional memorial today in our nation's capital as world war ii veterans join to

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