critics? do you think there's a real possibility that he has set up a taping system? >> i think it's important to note that with president trump when he was in business and when he was a candidate, people who worked for him largely assumed that their conversations with him were being taped in his new york offices. people generally worked under or that assumption. so the idea that he would be taping conversations is not out of the realm of possibility. it's much different when you're talking about conversations in the oval office. but the mere fact that we're having this conversation really extraordinary, and you have to put it, again, in some context. this is a president who was extremely frustrated with the way that the rollout of comey's firing was handled. he felt like he needed to step in there, he needed to be his own spokesperson. but in doing so both in the interviews that he did and his tweets, he only created more headaches and potentially legal makes for his white house. chris: yeah. that's one of the astonishing things x we're told he had no legal counsel before he went out and talked, and there are all
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