conference for over half an hour and really didn't give an inch to each other, as you point out, secretary of state tillerson said relations are at a low point. he talked at one point about a steady degradation of relations. they were completely on opposite sides when it came to syria and assad's responsibility. i would have to say, i wouldn't give tillerson quite as strong as high grades as you apparently did, melissa. i thought you could see a contrast between sergi lavrov, who seemed very comfortable and completely unyielding, giving long complicated answers, in which he went back to u.s. foreign policy in kosovo and iraq and libya, and sudan, to say that the u.s. seems to have this fixation with ousting dictators and countries end up in much worse shape afterwards.