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27% by 2,030. now, martha, even his own epa said it can't be done. one of the directors that he had put in, lisa jackson of the epa, says even if it could be done, it would not reduce co2 worldwide. on top of that, you got the united states supreme court who is already weighed already weighed in on us and has agreed with us and our president that it is something that would not work, could not work. people are always using their scared statements and are expecting more but nonetheless, it is something that wasn't going to work. >> martha: i watched that moment of the coal miners and a president and i think that is how he won. relating to people like the coal miners in that room. we saw him do it on the campaign trail. we also remember when a coal miner confronted hillary clinton in west virginia, a very revealing moment for her campaign, as well. as a democrat pointed out in ed henry's intro piece, those jobs have to happen.

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