the reason that trump won was because the russians hacked the election and that's why mrs. clinton lost. >> well, i don't think we need to relitigate the election. trump won and he is president of the united states. that is settled. that is not up for debate. steve: without the help of the russians? >> it's clear -- we know for a fact that the russians stole files from the dnc and released them strategically to help donald trump. 17 intelligence agencies have said that. that's a fact. it doesn't matter whether, you know, how -- you know whether it affected the owskt election or not. ainsley: the information exposed were facts. hillary clinton has no one to blame but herself for that. >> sure. and the russians, i think in the future election are going to break into the rnc or break into some republican candidates. steal information from them and put it out there to hurt them as well. ainsley: the way it happened was wrong, absolutely. >> look, it was illegal. it wasn't just wrong. it was a crime.