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where fences and brittle landing mats will not be effective. that includes up also texas, tucson, arizona, and el centro california. that makes sense where you have the biggest population concentrations along the border, that is where you need the most robust deterrents from keeping those people from coming across into the united states. >> it should be stated that president trump is actually right to focus on border security, but building a physical wall is not the best way forward. we could take the money, regardless of who pays for it, and use that to pay for an electronic wall which would include more drones, sensors, and that could help i.c.e. enforce it. additionally, 40% of illegal immigrants come to the united states through legal means. they can flying to jfk airport, they just overstay their visa. we can then implement an e-verify system which would help cut down on illegal immigrants through other means. >> jon: the electronic monitoring fence was tried.

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