clear weapons, any kind of digital missile shield. that is not to say that there are some people doing it right, but overall, if you gave us a great, we get in a on offense and d or f on defense, and you and i had a great conversation about the office of personnel management and all the records that were hacked. power stations have been hacked. ukraine, a year to the day they were hacked and black energy, they got hacked again. people who do not think this will happen in the u.s., there will be a day of reckoning and it will be fairly severe. >> gregg: you brought up the power grid, is that the one that is really worrisome? america's power grids run mostly by computer systems, not to mention our banking services. if those go down, if those are hacked, all of that together could just cripple the united states. >> i think it was an israeli general of the air force he said if you want to go after a nation, you go after its power or water. imagine taking out the power, imagine having spent many years
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