economic opportunity there. and there's certainly a level of violence that in our country we couldn't imagine. honduras, when i took over in southern command, was the most violent planet by u.n. numbers, most violent country on the planet, 91 deaths per 100,000. our country is about 5. a lot of good work down there. not always perfect. but the president has taken that down by a third. still horrific levels of violence. but my point is, they don't -- most of the time don't come here for any other purpose than to have some economic opportunities and to escape violence. my view, and i stated this for three years when i was at southern command, when i testified before this committee in april, my you view is if we can help them, if we can help them by reducing our drug demand, which is the fundamental problem of many of their problems, by reducing our drug