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anti-trump campaigns or anti-cruz campaigns. he says the moment has passed. it's too late. how is the establishment going to deal with a trump or cruz candidacy? >> the establishment has been nowhere to be seen in this race. and it's sort of an irony because both trump and cruz are constantly the establishment and it's done nothing to hurt them, even if it could. part of it is donors are scared of donald trump. they're scared of being insulted by him. they're worry if they hurt trump they'll just help cruz. >> isn't that bizarre? >> it's really bizarre. >> what do you think? how will they deal -- if trump or cruz win, tucker, how are they going to react? are they going to take up their toys and go home like little babies? >> maybe they'll do the adult thing which is learn something. they'll never like trump or cruz, trump especially because he does threaten their power. but they could learn something. the issues do not matter. it's not just because he was on a reality show and he is funny. he cares about issues that actual voters care about. their dream is to win elections without voters. th can't do that anymore. >> i think it's a little

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