whatever assistance it can so it's going to provide the information that it has. but brings us back to the same point we were just talking about. the u.s. intelligence is only going to be as good as our sources are. and i suspect frankly that that's inadequate right now. >> an issue that has come up in relation to this the fact that bulk data collection here in the united states expires tonight at midnight. what impact does that have on the war on terror and on investigations like this? >> i'm not sure that the bulk data collection is really the key to stopping this. we are still collecting a lot of signals intelligence and a lot of interceptions, what's missing from the equation more than an electronic intelligence is human sources, that's the big gap for all of the western intelligence agencies is people inside isis. >> so when it comes to infiltrating this network, is there more that the u.s. could be doing? i know we're not in the lead on