give our trigger pullers on the ground the kind of latitude they would need to crush isis? that's a scary thing to think about. >> are you speaking as a military member? what's the heart of our military right now and what our men and women are willing to do? >> well, they -- you saw the g-20, also. the basically used the troops as an excuse for inaction. i go to walter reed, of course that's in the heart of any commander in chief. but he basically said i don't want to do this when i come back wounded. when you ask vets about why they serve, they do it because they love it. they believe in it. they believe in this country. they're willing to give their lives for something -- >> when you see a military person serving over there, they are preventing people from jumping out of the 76th floor of the next world trade center. because there is the coordination. because the longer we leave this problem the greater the threat and the more damage they're going to do here. they've established a country while we watched. >> a terrorist nation. a rat cal islamist terrorist caliphate under our nose. no one wants to just throw troops at a problem. that's not what any vet --