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>> he doesn't alienate people and he seems to be more surrounding of the audience that he is talking to. >> what about kim, the people who let's assume trump does fall and there's no guarantee that that happens, but if it does who is there to peck up some of the voters? >> ted cruz. you know you saw that on the stage last night that that was, in fact something cruz was aiming for. overall, i did not think senator cruz really extinguished himself. and he is meant to be a master debater, and he is meant -- nothing he said necessarily resonated strongly at the debate. he was the other angry guy up on the stage. the other guy who said he is going to take on the beltway establishment, and that very much puts him in trump's shadow and if trump stays, i think some of the voters go to cruz. >> joe, you thought that chris christie did pretty well briefly. >> i did. he has put forward a very

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