academies at $35,000 a year, $40,000 a year. sometimes less. >> sometimes less. >> putting their life in -- putting themselves in harm's way for our safet -- the fire personnel as well. i think both of those are underappreciated. so just a little -- >> don't forget paramedics. >> and them, too. >> men in uniform. this is the theme. >> ups delivery guy. >> seriously, sanitation workers. >> garbagemen. >> they work harder than any uniform. >> i'm not going there. >> my garbage? kill a cow. >> they're union. >> i guess. so. >> so are the cops. >> but they're not public servants. >> dana perino. >> just asking someone why they are a proud american, it's kind of a difficult question. because it's a feeling. it's not something that you put into words all the time. so that we have to spend some time thinking about it is beautiful. i agree with geraldo, everywhere i've been people want to be more like america. they strive to be. we should help them be that way,
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