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more youth and energy, which he obviously has. he's basically saying let's redistribute the credits but in a different way than democrats. i think he's not talking about how do we grow the economy to the extent he should be. >> hold on a second. kim, come into this, please. i saw rubio's tax plan. i thought it was relatively bold, lower top rate of individual income tax lower the corporate top rate of tax. isn't that relatively bold? isn't that going for growth? >> some of it is. the corporate part of his tax plan is actually fairly bold and it would for instance and importantly zero out taxes on capital gains and dividends. that is all about growth. the individual part is problematic. as james said, he has embraced this sort of branch of the republican party that believes that what we ought to be doing to get votes is to redistribute the wealth to people, to the middle class and say here, here's more money, child tax credits, things like that.

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