>> the head of the union. >> it's extremely -- i've been around this city for 30, 35 years, i've never seen any dissension between the police and a mayor like this. never. >> bernie kerik, good to see you. >> thank you. >> is it fair to suggest that the mayor of new york does in fact have blood on his hands? that debate is still ahead. plus former new york mayor george pitaki is taking heat for his reaction to the murders. he joins us live. and our next guest says what article sharpton has done in recent months is divisive and wrong. but what he's doing now may be even worse. sheriff david clarke when we return. >> we have had enough! we don't want no double talking! we don't want no backsiding! we want to know where justice is!