council staff member serving under president bush and a fox news contributor. i how are you? good morning to you, gillian. you say cyber time -- your words now -- is the foremost threat to american well being. wow. how? >> well, what i mean by that is that really the face of contemporary terrorist organizations are cyber criminals. they are, you know, organizations whether in the private or public sector overseas of our adversaries that, you know, target us in ways like the sony attack that we saw yesterday. bill: so sony has a problem on its hands, and it's been documented now that they knew they had issues and did not do anything about it. where are you on that? >> yeah. i mean, by all accounts it seems that sony is an example of a company that, you know, whose cybersecurity protocols are very weak. they needed an overhaul. so i'm sort of hopeful that this will serve as a reminder, as a