a terrorist, quote, an infamous lie. so all these years later, will forester's family finally get the justice that they seek in the killer of their family member? bernard carak is a former commissioner of the new york police department, and he joins me now. it seems to me if you've got somebody on a most wanted, the fbi's most wanted terrorist list, that you would have wanted to discuss that as part of any deal to normalize relations with cuba, but there's no sign that that happened, is there? >> well, we haven't heard about it. when things like this go on, there's a lot that you won't hear, a lot of back door discussion cans. but i would hope -- discussions. but i would hope that the state department, that the fbi, that the justice department was counseling the president, talking to the president when he was making these decisions. because chesimard's not the only one. you have willie morales, the mommer -- bomber that bombed a number of facilities in new york city, you have charlie hill who killed a trooper in, i think, new mexico, state trooper.
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