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obamacare side of that dispute if it were in the record. >> that's right. when you have this architect where you know the administration pays $400,000, not just somebody consulted once over a meeting, if you have someone saying that was so involved in setting up structure and a national version of romney care, which was the massachusetts plan, that the whole thing is designed to incentivize states to set up their own exchanges. otherwise, there will be no subsidies for the nulewly insur. we're led to believe that there's going to be an exchange in every state and obamacare, the obama administration had to invent this along the way and come up with exchanges in states that refused to do their own. so this gruber discussion is

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