attorney during the past six months lois lerner has met privately with the investigators from the department of justice and apparently has not pleaded the fifth in those investigation hearings or committee conversations. and yet she will not speak to the american people. she wouldn't speak to their elected representative in congress but she will speak privately to the justice department. what does that tell us about the justice department investigation? she is more afraid of congress than she is the people who could indict her? >> but would she say, cleta, that this is a bipartisan witch hunt from the folks at the doj, and she is going to be doing an honest probe of the matter. >> i think that is the question, are they really doing an honest probe if they're doing a probe. i actually met with the representative, they notified me two days before i testified when i was getting ready to testify that i thought their investigation was a sham.