with the west, but i conflated russia with putin. >> russians have been helpful to the united states when it came to fighting radical islamic terrorism. >> because it's in their own self interest. >> putin is the president of a sovereign nation. he should not be allowed to invade other sovereign nations. when you're fighting an idealogical war, you have to work with people like putin. >> can i point out the difference between china and russia and the war on terror? the national interest. where is the threat to the national interest of russia going into crimea in ukraine? there's very little. >> national security is the united states commitment to our european allies. >> you have to see who has skin in the game. >> we do have skin in the game. >> talk about whether there's a national interest of americans abroad who are being blown to smith renes in certain areas or blown up here in america. >> the five's oscar breakdown is next.

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