america. you can't get any less ambivalent than we are about the world. it's a combination of isolation on the left and right. we want to turn out the lights and pretend we're not home. right now we're in a state where we have to see a resurgence of a very nationalistic leader out of necessity because no one seems to listen to us. and i don't know if that's good or bad. i think it might be good. >> what are your thoughts on that? >> i think this is a bad situation. a tipping point in many respects because this is just more of putin asserting himself. he is the bad guy. he is the bully here. he's the one in violation, but unfortuna unfortunately, i'm not very optimistic about a kind of sanctions we might put forward or, you know, removal from the g-8, because i think russia and putin will find a way to go around it. he's been very successful at doing that. look, i want to be optimistic. glass half full and all that, but a little sprinkle of reality in there.
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