we ask jurors to do that all the time. we ask them to forget things like that and put aside sympathy. it is a really difficult thing to do. it will be very hard for this jury to forget this person is convicted of this murder. jenna: that is one of the strategy points for the defense as well, phil. they're trying to say, listen, not only was pamela phillips not involved in this murder but maybe ron young didn't even do it. maybe somebody else did it. that is what the defense wants to do. what do you think about that strategy. >> absolutely. this is a great defense. this insurance policy is $2 million. $2 million in aspen buys you hamburger and fries and maybe small condo. this individual had many people that wanted him debt including mafia ties and other debts. there are other people that had motivation to kill him. i think the defense will focus on that, yes, the one possible suspect but there are many other suspect that is could be responsible for his death. jon: heather, we're seeing pamela phillips on the screen. she was arrested overseas in
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