management, 'cause if you can do something about a bad management, you are going to make a great deal of money. the sad part is the big mile. ul funds starting to say that way, far from getting involved. and as if i do share an obligation here, these index funds, got to get them moving, if you don't, i show how much you can make these companies, how much more productive. >> who are you setting your sights on now? >> first of all, you no we ebay. not going to tell you -- not gonna go in and tell you ones that we -- >> you want to separate -- >> absolutely. they say no. >> where is the battle going? >> you tell me, a bat is a battle. not afraid to fight a war. >> that war is not done? >> that war's just starting. i -- i think ebay is a perfect example what i'm talking b i mean, it's sort of interesting that the company has done well