gone up and down pretty consistently throughout. the good thing about when you are down usually you have got nowhere to go but up. >> president seeing low approval ratings right now. caused many in his party to distance themselves. who is with n. worse shape the eyeing the presidency or those -- a lack of success right now. here to discuss this is fox news contributor and contributing editor and writer for the american conservative magazine jim pinkerton and bureau chief for talk radio news service ellen rattner. good to see both of you. >> thank you. >> jim, let's start with you. are these things mutually exclusive? >> clearly the fate of the democrats in 2014 is kind of disconnected from the president. i mean, back in 2010, the
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