could survive. you can't do that as a young person because you don't have the status to absorb the damage. it truly is black listing in hollywood. that's why most of the people don't do it until they're in their 50s. >> because then you're protected because you don't worry about them taking down your career or your professional opportunities. >> because you're done. >> because you're finally established. good for him. i hope that more people in hollywood do start to speak out. i think they're getting tired of the fact that government is so incompetent. they've been supportive. they've held their tongues. they've been quiet about some of the things they are disturbed by. it gets to a point where if you think you're going to make a difference in the world that you finally have to use the platform you've been given. true. my friend suzanne summers she's a conservative. she's been here at fox a lot. >> name dropper. >> well, sorry, i know you're jealous. >> and she's had a hard time as well because she's conservative and some of the articles and things she's written, there's been a lot of, you know, vicious just -- that she was quite surprised by.
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