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that is something we're waiting to see to find out ourselves. >> reporter: that is true. what they're saying is they're concerned about, they're not takeing a political stand except to say that the government shutdown is basically hurting military readiness. it is hurting benefits that a lot of veterans get, a benefits a lost their families get. that is their message. i think their intention today is to be largely apoe lit call. things can take on spontaneity on their hone. bill: we'll watch your camera all day long. doug mckelway at the memorial. martha has more. martha: one of the more powerful speakers we saw at sunday's rally is former navy seal ben smith. here is what he had to say. >> there is no place to go past america. they shut these things down. if the veterans are quiet, the last bastion of americanism that this country has, this place goes to the ash heap of history.

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