at dealing with these groups. not necessarily al shabaab, but in general, radical islam mind-set. and so, that is probably the proximity was number one point. and, you know, the kenyans are very proud. the military tends to be very good. and they've shown how good they are in recent work in somalia, which is one of the reasons why al shabaab has undertaken this operation. in part to get back at the kenyan military that's been so successful in fighting al shabaab in that war they've been waging against the government of somalia. >> tell me a little bit about what it's like to go in to a situation where you have terrorists hiding and choppers hiding, because what we're finding out is that people were going down to the parking lot and hiding underneath cars and now the terrorists know that the kenyan forces are on the roof, and helicopters and they're hiding along with wshs how do you protect the hostages and take out the bad guys? >> well, part of the problem has been trying to clear that large
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