guys post pictures of themselves and are oiled up. they are bulging, and they are talking about every little piece of their body. it is crazy stuff. >> very creepy. >> those are not workout sites. they actually don't offer -- they don't offer tips it just says [bleep]. >> i don't know what he is talking about. >> oftentimes i don't understand your references, bill, and i don't understand that one. >> good. >> leave it to macho men to be competitive on who has a bigger eating disorder? >> that's just it. they don't realize they have an eating disorder. once they start, they can't stop. >> is that the equivalent though of women starving themselves? these are guys who want to bulk up their muscles, and no i don't believe the 40%. >> i am not saying we should shed a tear over these guys, but i think it is a real problem. >> they are obsessed with their bodies? >> yes. >> do you think there is any chance that women like this, and maybe that is something to do with it? i heard amy say at the gipping