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remember, the world in which we live in now, it's amazing how much abundance we have for food. we do have to exercise a little bit of personal responsibility. i'd rather live today than the one 50, 100 years ago when you really had to worry about your next meal. >> steve: the critics say that fast food makes us fat. but there is a study done a couple years ago where they realized that people who eat out a lot actually eat less at home and by the end of the day, they only consume, what, 24 calories more in a day than people who eat at home? >> that's right. this is the sort of situation where it's up to personal responsibility. you can eat out unhealthily or healthily. it's the same for home. all the meals at home are not necessarily healthy. you have to make wise choices no matter where you are. >> steve: jason, thank you very much for joining us today from oklahoma city. >> thanks, steve. appreciate it. >> steve: smells great.

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