o'mara was banging mr. zimmerman's head against the ground, i think the jurors probably asked themselves, what would i have done in that situation? what would i have done to protect myself? for better or worse, george zimmerman had a gun. that's a separate debate. but in light of the fact i think the jurors found that mr. zimmerman had a reasonable fear for his life. he took out his gun and tragically, tragically shot mr. martin, but what the jurors did, i think, is they separated that tragedy and their emotion from mr. zimmerman's state of mind. arfel, this was never a who done it. we all know that george zimmerman killed trayvon martin, but at the end of the day it came down to what mr. zimmerman's state of mind was, and the jurors found out that he had an innocent state of mind in the sense that he wasn't acting with a depraved heart and he was acting reasonably. >> and, matt through -- >> of course, their view -- i'm