the person on top in a downward position. not a situation where he was wailing away at the person below. and that's important, because he does not describe this great ground and pound, the words were go back and look at the record, tussling and wrestling are the words he used. >> yeah. >> lastly, the injuries that mr. zimmerman describes, right? even his own testimony from the interview says my hand was a little on the sidewalk. and he was squirming down. but lastly, he tells mr. osterman, my leg -- the legs of trayvon, up by my arms, not down in the midsection of his body, so we believe that the testimony that george zimmerman said about trayvon being near the gun. >> we're running out of time. >> that's why the jury should disregard mr. zimmerman's testimony. >> trayvon talked about