started earlier, what were they doing? you know? listen to -- there are check lists to go through a approach plans to reveal. they should review notice to air men saying glide slope is off. we will find out, i think, that these pilots did not do a very thorough approach. and mike said they got behind the plane and bit time -- it's too late. >> i want to talk to you. glide scope how it's a radio beam showing how approach should take place. now, i read that if you zront that beam in, z.you're coming in over water your approach is over water sometimes there could be illusions is to this a recipe for illusions? canrn ge fr this crash? >> well, it sure makes it somewhat more challenging. hundreds of pilots landed on