$100,000 going to this family over five years, it's not a lump sum. it went to the parents, it never went directly to these two bastards. so while probably not great people, this is not illegal. this is the system we have wrchlt -- system we have. >> it sucks. i put it in the context of the earned income tax credit fraud, food stamp fraud. it turns out he was right. billions and billions and billions of dollars spent on welfare fraud, everything. this is the pot of gold for everybody, and it's worth filling that gold with our pot. >> i'm all of a sudden interested. >> i meant filling the pot with our gold.