exempting from gun control. you can't have high capacity magazines, but their body guards get them. you've got to pay 30%, they pay 18. you've got to have the ridiculous government health care and they've got their own version of it. >> clayton: and the obamacare bill, a lot of people say we need exceptions because of the employees we have and the heart of the debate, as company implement obamacare. a ceo of home depot deals with his very large company, moment depot and mentioned a few hours ago na they also deal with a lot of small companies, contractors who come to the contracting door to home depot and you feel guilty getting a key made and they're doing hard work. neve a number of employees that's going to hit by obamacare and he says it's really going to crush business. >> obamacare is going to kill off small businesses, there's he no question about it. if they're thrown out of their medical plans now where