place on every weapon, this appears to be an exact-o knife although that's not confirmed yet. and i think it underscores the need for responsible adults who have a chl to be able to defend themselves. i don't know if you saw the story, megyn, this past weekend a free class was given to school teachers k through 12. 700 teachers showed up to take the class. >> megyn: i want to ask you, a minute until the hard break. the argument is that this guy who did the stabbing, he would have had a gun on him if concealed carry would have been legal. >> he could have had a gun on him, he could have had a gun anyway. the chl allows 21 and older, how old you would have to be. not any college student. 21 and older to carry a gun if we passed this bill and this person who did the stabbing today could have carried a gun, thank goodness, he didn't. he inflicted enough damage. >> clearly not a law abiding citizen. >> right. conditions on campus at the