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is in the bill, it's actually passing a bill, it's symbolic because americans believe that washington d.c. is broken. president obama is losing face with the latino community. for all side to win they need to agree on something to get before the president, a law. jenna: i want to ask you something that is really important that doesn't get a lot of attention when we go back and forth to the right and left with immigration reform it has to do with outside groups like labor organizations, like the chamber of commerce all that have a hand in this legislation. what do you think their roles are and how integral are those roles to whatever we see here. >> very big question, they have a big organization. not only do they have a hand in the legislation they also give political action committee money, and both organizations cannot agree on the low-skill worker program. unions want to protect their employees that they already have and the u.s. chamber of commerce like to bring low scaled labor workers in nor lower wages. they need to work that out as

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