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studies. >> you're wrong, absolutely wrong. >> megyn: no, no, give it back in a second, tony. >> you can say i'm wrong, but when you have a chance to go in court you were silent. the truth of the matter is that-- >> you should read-- >> in front of this court, and the brief in your group, but you haven't been able to produce a single public health psychiatric child welfare association that has-- >> i've got to go, up against a hard break and tony, ask you, separate apart from the mom and dad issue, what we've heard from the supreme court justices, years of history on this and why should we be the arbiters of what's okay in the country. do you see this as more of a democracy issue for the states? look, the states are working this out. if it was inevitable as some would like to say, the court should interject itself in this. look, you don't make radical public policy changes like this overnight. there are unintended consequences when we do things like this. it's being worked out

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