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everything except for defense spending. then you got i think the bulk of the country which falls somewhere in the middle. i'm just wondering if the extremes on both sides should be able to hold the rest of the country hostage the way that they seem to be doing. >> well, you've answered the question. of course, they shouldn't. buff the problem obviously is that the extremes tend to be organized, motivated and both sides, in both parties, and that there is a whole glob of americans in the middle, certainly the majority, who think that there should be some kind of compromise here with some cuts, some revenue, figure out how to do it. and yet, frankly we don't stay up 'til 4:00 o'clock in the morning keep track of how these yoyo heads voted because we're sitting this trying to live our lives. i think that's the disconnect right now between interest group politics in washington dominated

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