biggest beef jerky guy around. >> it's the kind of thing you pick up the jerky and the motor oil. but it's really been elevated. it really has. kind of a renaissance going on with jerky. >> arthel: why should i eat this stuff that i do not like? >> it's low carb, low cal, low fat, high protein. >> arthel: why are these good? >> these all got our tasters high marks. this is our number one tastiest and this is oh, boy alberto. it had just the right amount of chewiness and a nice little spicy kick. you know what jerky really is? all it is is really lean meat that's been very slowly cooked to get even more fat out of it. and then some spices added. that's really it. i can't sell you. okay. >> arthel: okay. >> number two. next runner up is -- this is pacific gold. this is the costco brand.