pain for every american. your thoughts? >> well, i think first of all, given where we are and the situation we're in, every american's going to have to experience the pain. that's true. and whether this will or not, it all depends on how it's administered and whether or not we give the president the flexibility to make it as painless as possible. >> greta: is there, i know you and i have discussed this many times waste in the government. do you have any choice examples today? >> oh, well, look, there's so many to choose from. >> well, let me give you a hint. how do you like this one? i got this information from you, is that we have to see the department of the produces a 46 minute video called "grill it safe" featuring drill sergeants showing off their own recipes. >> well, i'm sure somebody thought that was a good idea. you know, people don't do stupid things intentionally. they're just not unaware of one, common sense. number two, the situation we find ourselves in. i mean, we've been running