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and certainly it's fine if you want to hire an ex-convict if you feel good about it. but some of these people have really done some pretty bad things and i can see employers not wanting to do it. and to be forced to do that is government involvement and this is a bad case of government involvement. the fact is, who wants to do this? this is crazy. and they'll have very harsh penalties. >> peter: if someone was convicted of armed robbery or burglary, would you want that kind of person at your resort or golf club or building? >> no, i would not want that type of person. i think it would be -- it's a tough situation, but when -- it goes beyond the prison. sheriffed their term and you can say they've absolved their self of their problem. but the fact is, it's still there and it's in the back of everyone's mind and everybody knows it and no, you should not be forced. now, if you want to do that, i think that's fantastic. if you want to hire an ex-con,

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