system a great deal of money. eventually there is significant cost. they will get medicare. they're not paid much into it. they get it. some of them, low income people will get medicaid and many people, many of these 11 million will go on to these government subsidized health insurance exchanges set up under obamacare. so point number one, this is going to cost us. that should be part of the debate. >> brian: carney is saying they become taxpayers for the first time instead of bilking our system. >> jay carney is making the point, the president's point that immigration reform is good overall for america's middle class, good overall for the economy. making the same claims that were made about obamacare. obamacare really did not work out as a plus for the economy. will this work out as a plus for the economy if and when immigration reform goes through? there is one area where it will be a plus for the economy and that is that the proposal for more high-tech immigrant visas.
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