in a knee jerk reaction in the course of this sad, sad story. as they often do when they try to push something through. but that's just me on my soapbox. going next door, number two, don't have much time left. lori, you are in favor of the hollywood incentives. >> why not? i don't want to get crushed again. i am scared to comment further. >> it was a good debate between you and rob. rob being more skeptical about the purpose of these incentives. >> and he is the insider and i am looking at it from a business spur tech tiff. -- business perspective. >> if they tea vowed this, i -- if they tivoed this, i would suggest they look at the middle and there is a clip of bill staring, and he is staring into the camera. i think what we should do is find the clip during the course of the debate and freeze it. if we can show it later in the show -- >> if there is anyone watching right now this is one f-ed up