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that is the heart of a lot of these social union type programs and i got to tell you, the citizens there spoke loud and clear. they had a recall election. they had the opportunity to change their mind. they did not. they understand, again while everyone wants workers to have rights, ultimately, we want, we don't want the rights to interfere with broad prosperity. gregg: over time, unions got a little too greedy? >> they got a little too greedy over time. the best example would be the auto industry. management and unions felt there was no competition. no one wanted to buy datsun and sat amongst themselves and bickered over the money. we got lower quality product. japanese automakers came in and took over the industry. gregg: yeah. all right. charles payne, thank you very much. the michigan state senator who helped sponsor the controversial legislation and helped push it through will join us.

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