with his long life in politics. and what a character in politics, starting as a democrat, becoming a moderate republican, chairing the senate judiciary committee and sitting over all of those judicial nominations, including supreme court nominations. i interviewed them many, many times and following the campaign when he eventually lost as a democrat. becoming a democrat, yeah. today i talked to the former new hampshire governor john sununu and he reflected back on his experiences with senator specter. >> i got to know arlen reasonably well, pretty well, actually during the hearings and he turned out to be quite helpful. i thought a lot of liberals got angry for him, but he had made a commitment and he deserves credit and he stuck to it. one small family anecdote about it.