much to say ohio is crucial obviously. if you look at the polls i think there was a sense both in public polling and internal polling for the campaigns that ohio was slipping away from republicans in a state that they need to win. now seems there is some tightening. there was a poll out in michigan last night shows president obama only up three points there. if president obama is only up three points in michigan and that's a good poll, it's likely that ohio is back to a dead-heat which insures that continue to be competitive through november 6. martha: this is why we find it so fascinating. everybody was convinced debates don't move the needle that much in the end. >> this one sure did. martha: a historic move and debate political scientists will look back on for years to come. steve, thank you so much. we'll see you soon. >> thanks, martha. martha: okay. bill: sad note now. that border agent shot in the line of duty near the arizona-mexican border has been laid to rest. 30-year-old nicholas ivie was killed while responding to an alarm aimed at

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