and losers, you pick the losers. >> good exchange there. real quickly because we're out of time. if you had to give advice to the president? how would you change the thing? it's a town hall format? who is probably going to do better in a town hall. >> the conventional wisdom is that the president connects better with voters than governor romney does except that governor romney on wednesday night shows that he connects very well with voters. he did a much better job than the president. the president has got to get into the debate prep sessions and work hard. there is no substitute for preparation. >> yeah. can you prep too much though? >> absolutely not. it's just the way you do prep. you have got to be -- you have got to know the issues. have you got to have a strategy. which the president didn't have. then you have got to be mentally prepared which it didn't appear the president was. >> what was the most surprising thick for you as far as the president's performance there? i was really watching the thing i was like why do you

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