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you were in the courtroom. >> i tell you, ralph is a sweet guy and i like him but it brought gasps to the jury. in fact, joel had to at some point ask the judge later making sure nobody gasps but the jury gasped when asked the question to the eminently qualified county medical examiner who had done a respectable job in the courtroom and seemed to answer every question and at a certain point he said so that is your lame excuse for and the jury gasped because of the disrespect shown for him. but ralph is a good guy. >> he was smart enough to get in on their case the fact that we had three experts. he got that in on their case. that was genius. >> why isn't ralph here and all you guys are on the media all the time? ralph says it is not ethical to do. you are on tv. >> judge jeanine: everybody relax. >> that is not true at all. is not true. you know what the rules are. >> we talked about that. >> judge jeanine: i need a gavel. >> order in the court. >> judge jeanine: gentlemen,

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