does paul ryan bring in the way of energizing aside from the fact that he has bona fide conservative chops that maybe the governor from massachusetts didn't have? >> for one thing he is very exciting. obviously a much younger candidate. several years younger than the president. he is only 42. and so in some respects republicans think here that they can narrow the gap with obama on the younger demographic, the 1 18 to 29-year-old vote that is so important that helped president obama over the edge in 2008. it could help with suburban women as well. paul ryan is a young father and appeals to families. so in many ways he is a different kind of pick from mitt romney. he is not the sort of boring pick that some republicans thought that they might get and some of the older possibilities on that short list. >> shepard: if they were to have gone with a safe list and you can throw out the names if you want, they are out there. gone with a safe pick that doesn't change the narrative.

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