mitt romney's tenure at bain capital was the focus of a back and forth on the scam pain trail. here is what -- on the campaign trail. here is what president obama said on saturday jie. -- >> whereas my opponent in his private business was investing in companies the washington post calls pioneers of out sourcing. i believe in insourcing. >> and here is some of the ad put out by the romney campaign that challenges the president on that point. >> when a president doesn't tell the truth, how can we trust him to lead? the obama out sourcing attacks, misleading, unfair and untrue. there was no evidence that mitt romney shipped jobs overseas. >> joining us now to discuss all of this are two top operatives with years of experience running presidential campaigns, karl rove, founder of the super pack american crossroads and joe trippey who was howard